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by TimKafer » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:58 pm

How important is it to players to have their HS Coach help them with College recruiting.
Is this an important function and factor for picking a High School Coach.
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by TimKafer » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:19 pm

A lot of parents think this is an important aspect in picking a new coach for a High School Baseball Team.
How do others feel. A great coach brings a lot to the table. Is this an important aspect?
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by TimKafer » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:52 pm

JC,
You have been a HS coach for many years. Do you feel it is part of your job to help players play at the college level?
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by TimKafer » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:16 am

Here are some posts from the archived forum relating to college recruiting insights:
I'm sure there are a million different ways that kids end up playing college ball and pro ball - the purpose of this post is to share what worked and did not work for my kid. I kept asking people what they were doing but there seems to be this secrecy of competition and people don't want to share - I guess for fear that your kid might take their spot. ;-)

I'm sharing.

This summer my son received a scholarship to a D1 program in Texas. We are all very excited. He played one year of Juco ball and is now a rising sophomore.

Here are my tips, take 'em or leave 'em.

Avoid tryouts (college or pro) that charge a fee. Nothing ever materialized for my son (and others I know) when they paid to try out for programs - juco, D2 and D1 alike. These are a waste and I wish I had these Sat*rdays back. I'm convinced they are used to make money.

Practice specifically for tryouts Like it or not, they all do the same thing in tryouts. 60 yard sprint, clocked throws and then hitting in cage. If you are over 7.2 in the 60 and can't hit 85 mph on a throw in the field, you will not get looked at. Have your son focus less on fielding the ball cleanly and more on taking a huge crow hop to get everything he can on the throw. It's the system and you will have to let go of the fact that your kid didn't make an error in two years at shortstop, or that he's a heads-up ball player and knows what to do at all times - it doesn't matter in tryouts and thinking that it does is only setting him up for failure.

Juco is the way My son was devastated when no schools came knocking in high school and was forced to go to junior college. As it turns out, it was a blessing is disguise and he grew up in ways that he would not have at a D1 program. 1) The classes are easier and this helps the transition into college. 2) Facilities/equipment/etc make them appreciate the 4 year programs and make them work harder to get there. 3) You can go directly to MLB as an option. 4) Most importantly, they get to play. My son has 200 ABs under his belt compared to other freshman at D1 programs that sat the bench and got none. Who do you think will have more of an impact as a sophomore? This is why the D1 programs farm the jucos. You still need to put up some good numbers. Hitting .150 doesn't get you to the next level.

Market your player Make phone calls, send emails, create a web site with video footage. This is very similar to finding a job - most will not come looking for you. Your objective is to get a tryout invitation. Do not be flustered by constant rejection - keep at it!

Have an advocate If his high school, juco or summer ball coach can be the one reaching out to the schools, that goes a long way. Having a Dad tell someone how great his kid is would be like having your Mom testify for you in court. It means nothing.

All of these tips mean nothing if your player doesn't have the skills and/or not ready to perform. It's all about getting the right people to see them do their thing.

Hope this helps!
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by TimKafer » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:17 am

Ear_Hole: Great post. You've hit on almost all of them. I ask/suggest parents to not pack up their boy and head to a Rawlings Showcase in Arizona that cost them $2700.00 out of pocket for Showcase fee, flight and hotels.

Now I'm almost 'telling' them forcefully not to do it. The Showcase fliers all say "your sons will be treated equally". Not so. Recently a family got back where their two-way guy Pitched to one batter and got one at bat.

I stress that their son MUST be a student at his college/Juco or university.

Pick out three colleges/sites that he wants to be a student-athlete at and go to those three's baseball camps.

I urge the Student-Athlete to also make most of the contacts, phone calls, emails. Coaches don't want emails from Parents who "sign" their son's name to the bottom. Accountability with the player and the recruiting coach has to start asap. Mom and Dad need to help and support but not do all/any of the promoting.

Thanks for what you wrote.
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by TimKafer » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:18 am

JC,

Thanks for the feedback, I agree 100%. If the player is not the one initiating the calls, then he doesn't want it bad enough. As parents, we play a supporting role but there's a fine line between supporting and carrying somebody.

Obviously a player cannot video himself on the mound, but he can post the videos to youtube, email the coaches, make phone calls, etc. Coaches love mature behavior and initiative.

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by TimKafer » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:27 am

And this is from JCbaseball
Talk to your baseball coach. Coordinate and ask your questions to your school counselor and advisor.

This may help, but you have not mentioned your age or grade in school.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13215140/Tips ... ll-Coaches


http://www.varsityedge.com/nei/varsity. ... video+work
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by TimKafer » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:28 am

By How2baseball
Scouts base there recruiting players off of 5 tools. Nowadays even little
league coaches are using these tools to grade their own teams, but
when it comes to the pros and colleges the scouts they take it a little
more serious because they have a lot more at stake. So if you are to
teach your kids these 5 tools now before they got to little league, jr
high, club teams, high school do you realize how much your son or
daughter will stand out. Yeah I do mean daughter because these same
tools of grading baseball players is applys to a softball players too.
Alright let’s get into it.




Speed:
Speed is going to be one of the most important tools of the 5. It is very
possible to enhance your speed performance by doing several of things,
but most of the time speed is something that people are born but with
hard work can be taught. I personally never had blazing fast speed, but
working at it and building my small muscle more, rather than just my
main muscle group I picked up in speed in no time. One thing that
really helped me with my agility and speed was a 30' Speed Agility
Ladder ,used to quicken your feet work. You want to be able to get to
the ball or run the bases as quick as you can. Doing so you want to
make your first 2 steps the fastest and quickest but under control with
good balance. When I say balance I’m talking about getting a good
strong push off, but in a quick manner all under control. if you go to
YouTube and type in speed agility ladder it will show you all kinds of
different foot exercise with the ladder, but here is a speed and agility
exercise Book Highly Recommended with plenty of good reviews.

Arm Strength:
Arm strength can be over looked as not important, but the reality of it
is baseball can be measure by hundredths of a second. If you had just a
hair more speed on your ball when you threw it he would have been
out, or just a hair harder and he would have swung and missed instead
of fouling it off in the 9th inning at your 100 pitch mark. That’s when
you have to push yourself to use all that hard, dedicated work you put
in to get you late in the games. You want to focus and build up your
forearm grip, shoulders, core, and legs because they all have a big role
in throwing a baseball. You want to make sure your small muscles in
your shoulders and elbows are worked with lighter weights and flex
tubing bands. Reading this Book will show you more in detail on how
to get you late into the game.

Hitting For Average:
No matter how much we all love our power hitters we need a contact
hitter that can drive in runs or get on base. Teams need guys that can
hit for average, lay a bunt down, hit the ball to the opposite field,
execute a hit and run. You can’t score runs if you don’t hit the ball. If
you’re a leadoff hitters don’t swing at the first pitch because it doesn’t
give you a chance to see what kind of pitches he has. Its better that you
take pitches and get the pitcher to show off his stuff so you give other
hitters a chance to study him and his pitches. You have to understand
the Science of Hitting and learn to think like a pitcher more. It’s always
better to have a plan when you’re going up to the plate because if you
don’t then chances are you’re going to swing at anything that looks hit
able.

Hitting For Power:
Now hitting for power is a powerful tool to have because you can be
one that is depended upon in big situations. Now when people think of
power hitters they think one of 2 things swing and miss, or the long
ball! Why not be a guy that can hit for power and average, be the best
of both worlds as a hitter. You will get a lot more attention if you can
drop a bunt down when people are expecting a big blast out of you.
That doesn’t mean you have to do that all the time because after all you
are the power hitter on the team. Back Spin, Back Spin, And Back Spin!!
That’s what you want when you’re hitting a baseball, you want the ball
to carry. Ever wonder why the ball doesn’t go as far when you thought
you smashed the ball? Well chances are you’re hitting the top half or
the ball or dead on in the middle witch either causes top spin and the
ball to dive down or a knuckle ball that doesn’t spin. The next time you
go out to train get a baseball Tee and set it all heights and take 25
inside, outside and middle swings each. If you don’t have a Tee you
can get a Jugs Hitting Tee that is used highly by the professional
because of the quality and brand. It allows you to break down your
swing and see where you’re going wrong. Always try recording yourself
and replaying it to see what you’re doing wrong. If you’re having
trouble on finding a good hitting coach or to get the basics of hitting
than I suggest getting some advice from the great Ted Williams .

Fielding:
We can’t forget about fielding, even though we all love to hit we need
to be able to field the ball. Even the pitchers and catchers have to be
able to field there position. Baseball is a muscle memory type of sport
and is almost all mental. You have to do things over and over and over
again tell you master it. Taking 100's of ground balls and 100's of fly
balls is what you have to do to master it. Fielding Drills & Techniques is
a must have for the basic of fielding, sometimes even the pros have to
go back to the basics of the fundamentals of fielding. If you’re a
pitcher, then go through the motions on the mound and have someone
hit balls back at you with different scenarios. If you’re a catcher then
get some to throw balls in the dirt so you can get practice blocking the
ball. Make all your work outs and practices games speed because
practice carries over to real game situations.
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by JCbaseball » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:18 pm

Hey Tim, thanks for asking ... It would be helpful for a HS players Head coach to make an effort in all his players attempts at attending college and playing baseball. The best advice I give our HS players is to choose THREE colleges that they will enjoy socially and will give them the education they are seeking. I prefer doing it this way rather than spending five thousand dollars going to Showcases which feature Coaches from Colleges that may not be compatible to the life style of the HS student-athlete. No offense to "my kids" but California kids seem to have issues playing back east and getting accustomed to practicing in indoor Field-houses and we see a lot of kids "bounce back" to places in California.

Here are a bunch of Links that I hope will help all who need to make decisions.

http://www.varsityedge.com/nei/varsity. ... video+work

http://www.webball.com/cms/page4983.cfm

http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ran ... rtCode=MBA
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